# Librehosters Assembly **URL:** \ **Category:** OFFDEM\ **Created:** [18 February 2022 20:42 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68 "2022-02-18T20:42:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/how/32/8_2.png) [@how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/how)\ **Post date:** [18 February 2022 20:42 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/1 "2022-02-18T20:42:37Z")
After the [LibreHosters Meetup](https://ps.zoethical.org/t/librehosters-meetup/5406) prior to OFFDEM, we’re happy to host a dedicated assembly for hosters of free software services to discuss. This topic will help prepare for this moment and provide announcement and follow up. ## 2022-03-05 Saturday 11:00 - 12:30 ### Participants _Please add your collective in alphabetical order_ - marsnet (Marseille) - neutrinet (Bruxelles) - petites singularités (Bruxelles) - sourcehut (Amsterdam) - weho.st (Amsterdam) - zintv (Bruxelles) ### Topics See [https://talk.libreho.st/t/librehosters-offdem/533](https://talk.libreho.st/t/librehosters-offdem/533) Discuss below, edit here. ---
**Author:** ![how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/how/32/8_2.png) [@how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/how)\ **Post date:** [5 March 2022 11:40 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/2 "2022-03-05T11:40:06Z")
@cnbcp[HedgeDoc - Collaborative markdown notes](https://pad.public.cat/offdem-o2-librehosters-assembly) ---
**Author:** ![becha](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/becha/32/143_2.png) [@becha](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/becha)\ **Post date:** [8 March 2022 15:21 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/3 "2022-03-08T15:21:22Z")
I have a question: with a virtual-colleague / someone from the community, we are trying to document “secure communication tools for people in the war”. Do you want to help write it? Do you want to recommend some tools / documents / sources? We’d like to publish it this week… and we have an etherpad (riseup) for shared editing. Let me know if you want to offer help. thanks! Vesna ---
**Author:** ![XavCC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/a5b964/32.png) [@XavCC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/XavCC)\ **Post date:** [8 March 2022 15:24 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/4 "2022-03-08T15:24:40Z")
Hi Vesna, Thank you for asking and sharing. I’m interested in helping out with the pad notes. ---
**Author:** ![becha](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/becha/32/143_2.png) [@becha](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/becha)\ **Post date:** [8 March 2022 16:36 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/5 "2022-03-08T16:36:55Z")
thanks - i’ve share it with you privately, i think 😉 ---
**Author:** ![becha](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/becha/32/143_2.png) [@becha](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/becha)\ **Post date:** [14 March 2022 16:28 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/6 "2022-03-14T16:28:13Z")
We’ve published one article – for non-techies: > **[Secure Personal Communication in the Event of Crisis](https://labs.ripe.net/author/waehlisch/secure-personal-communication-in-the-event-of-crisis/)** > > Choice of communication tools is not usually a topic for RIPE community engineers. This article is aimed at not-so-technical audiences who might need help and support from their IT colleagues during these difficult times. Please share, and/or add your opinion in the “comments” section. ---
**Author:** ![how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/how/32/8_2.png) [@how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/how)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2022 12:17 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/7 "2022-03-15T12:17:45Z")
This article gives generally sound advice but fails to take into account a threat model where you’re trying to defend against capitalism. > An example of a secure email provider is ProtonMail. This Swiss based company offers a free, end-to-end encrypted, email service. Since ProtonMail was forcibly ordered by local Swiss police to deliver French activist user information by way of Interpol, their _security_ can be deemed problematic by a number of people. Other secure email solutions include [Delta.chat](https://delta.chat) that deploys [Autocrypt](https://autocrypt.org) and works with any existing email provider, [p≡p](https://pep.software/) also deploys Autocrypt, but differently—and I have no personal experience of the software, just the people. Also, using OpenPGP encryption with classical email providers may be a bit more demanding, but works. See for example [Riseup.net](http://Riseup.net). > Concerning a decentralised system, [https://element.io/](https://element.io/) and `https://newnode.com/` are advised. NewNode is proprietary software and should therefore not be recommended. > Most of the free and commercial conference applications allow the encryption of audio and video streams (e.g., Skype, Zoom, WebEx, Jitsi) and they apply it by default. Except for the last one, all of these applications belong to surveillance capitalists and put in place some facial recognition and other surveillance systems and should not be trusted, as any proprietary software. Zoom does not enable E2EE by default. Some of the others do not even seem to have this capacity. The question is: do you really need video conferencing? If not, there are other solutions such as [Mumble](https://mumble.info). Many-to-many video is generally useless and very energy hungry. [Tox](https://tox.chat) does not appear in any of the alternatives. > Anonymous Communication and Circumventing Censorship I find it problematic to link to Twitter of F̶̥̈ȧ̶͜k̸̤̋ê̶̦b̸̠̎ơ̴̠ọ̸̍z̷̝̎ in this section, since even if you use Tor to connect to them, they will require you to login, so there’s no anonymity here. > options to encrypt the data on your hard drive. It is easy to switch on, but you will have to trust these vendors to have done a good job. Of course, if you put aside the fact these companies are part of the PRISM surveillance network and share [a history of](https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html) [abusing users](https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.html). Not to be trusted. > enabling Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) You can use [FreeOTP](https://freeotp.github.io/) on Android, or [pass-otp](https://github.com/tadfisher/pass-otp#readme) on GNU/Linux. > And do not forget … whom do you trust? 1. Generally avoid trusting capitalist companies: they’re after you, not acting in your best interest. ---
**Author:** ![joostvb](https://oxygen.offdem.net/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@joostvb](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/joostvb)\ **Post date:** [15 March 2022 13:23 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/8 "2022-03-15T13:23:09Z")
Merci beaucoup hellekin for this beautiful and in-depth reply! \<3 Joost ---
**Author:** ![how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/how/32/8_2.png) [@how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/how)\ **Post date:** [22 March 2022 17:08 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/9 "2022-03-22T17:08:46Z")
As Librehosters were announced as a transversal topic for OFFDEM, this is no surprise that the [Librehosters Assembly was rich and diverse](https://pad.public.cat/s/offdem-o2-presentation-librehoster#). Not only members of the [Librehosters network](https://libreho.st) participated, but also unaffiliated entities who do provide militant free software services to the public (like [SourceHut](https://sr.ht)) and people who are engaged daily with the social movements (like [ZIN TV](https://zin.tv)), or both, like our friends the @gnuragistes. We went through recurring issues, such as the centralization of data centers for allegedly alternative hosting–which is something we’ve been aware since inception, but unable to address so far, unless we consider the tremendous effort of [Neutrinet](https://neutrinet.be) to establish a local data center for associations in Brussels. We discussed the possible affinities and differences between the Librehosters network and the InfraRed, concluding that the former should probably focus on the promotion of free software services, in the line of [CHATONS](https://chatons.org), and leave sysadmin mutual aid network to the latter. @gio introduced the [Librerouter](https://librerouter.org), a hardware mesh router that can be easily reproduced anywhere, and its sister project, [elRepo.io](https://elrepo.io) that proposes a distributed cultural repository. We had the chance to benefit from [Marsnet](https://www.marsnet.org/)’s long experience with libre hosting in Marseille. ---
**Author:** ![how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/how/32/8_2.png) [@how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/how)\ **Post date:** [30 January 2023 10:58 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/10 "2023-01-30T10:58:30Z")
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**Author:** ![how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/how/32/8_2.png) [@how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/how)\ **Post date:** [21 January 2024 17:41 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/11 "2024-01-21T17:41:26Z")
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**Author:** ![how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/user_avatar/oxygen.offdem.net/how/32/8_2.png) [@how](https://oxygen.offdem.net/u/how)\ **Post date:** [21 January 2024 17:41 UTC](https://oxygen.offdem.net/t/librehosters-assembly/68/12 "2024-01-21T17:41:30Z")