Continuing the discussion from OOO₃FFDEM Programme:
This morning we worked on the following pad: Removing Functionality - HedgeDoc
Here is a copy below… You can pursue in this topic for the afternoon session.
OFFDEM Sunday’s Removing Functionality WG
Participants
- Igor (APC) – think outside the box (instead of ‘more tech is better’)
- Maja (APC) – web dev, how to make websites less heavy, more accessible (esp. for smaller connections)
- Paula (she/her) (CCT) – “not super techie”, interested in climate movement
- Steffen () – we discussed the topic in Turbingen hackerspace recently
- Noé (he-him/they-them)-- hackerspace strasbourg, art&design, interested in how we can make low tech knowledge accessible for climate movement
- hellekin (p.s. – interested in SBC backup-mirrors at home
- Joost (Debian) –
- Luc (he-him) – neighbor
- Inari (irational.org) – based in Rotterdam, exploring the opposite of production. How not to make a product, but make a byproduct instead. E.g., energy drink from invasive plants. Interested in minimal computing.
- Vesna (RIPE - IETF) – Amsterdam from Yougoslavia. Interested in dealing with the amount of waste from hackerspaces. Internet governance bodies talk about “Growing the Internet” ; “Data is the new oil” – climate protests ; next step is to protest against data centers and the Internet.
- Emma Peel (l10n Tor) – Interested in reducing emissions, also reducing online service usage. Recycling hardware ; instead of buying new hardware, as it might not be so energy hungry
- Pierre () – comms engineer from Italy
Topics
- Minimal computing and SBC
- Reducing global Internet consumption
Irational.org SBC-based backup
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Electricity bill jumped through the roof. How to fix our energy consumption down to manageable level?
- SBC power vs datacenter: from 150 GBP to 5 EUR / month
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Lo-tech magazine runs SBC-based solar panel server: it does not need to be always on. → How to Build a Low-tech Website? - LOW-TECH MAGAZINE and also How Sustainable is a Solar Powered Website? - LOW-TECH MAGAZINE
- Irational explored SSD instead of SDcard for reliability, and also OLIMEX hardware (but not powerful enough compared with Raspberry Pi)
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immediacy / Always on:
- trade-off between instant gratification of the Internet and people working picking up the phone and waiting for a paper copy.
- solar-powered web is not available at night, but mirrors across the planet can make it available 24/24.
- OSI layer 2/3 - assumption that the network is always on.
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hidden energy costs:
- most of the energy consumed by the devices is before the device hits the consumer market.
- A single comma change on a website launches many background processes of indexing and caching…
- is a recycled laptop worth using instead of a new SBC?
- “when should you bake a cake” smart grid calculator
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Is my data important?
- who decides whose data is important (CDNs, farmers)
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Disconnecting as a health practice
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What data to backup ?
- issue of duplication (same files from different users)
- when deduplication breaks in progress media projects. Oops.
- issue of replication (of public stuff)
- issue of irrelevance (e.g., external data)
- issue of encryption (how to deduplicate there?)
- issue of sorting out (how to sort backup-worthy data? vs. alternatives: should you rather keep 10% of everything or lose everything?)
- issue of constraint (less storage constraint, more data)
- issue of redundancy (how many copies should we keep?)
- issue of security (are we safe with these backups in case of server seizure?)
- issue of duplication (same files from different users)
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Off the grid Internet
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Elektra (with funding from APC) made a solar-powered mesh network
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Is amplifying usage of SBC-based networks actually competes with data centers in terms of energy consumption? What part of data center energy the SBC-based movement would actually shift away from DC?
- grassroots movements vs. datacenters in small cities
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Reducing power consumption
- repurposing heat transfer
- reconsidering protocols: Gemini vs. HTTP(S)…
- up the hill vs. down the hill
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but structural market issue with bandwidth (more leads to more)
- how to reduce affluence of data transfers? What is the “private jet” of the Internet?
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UX does not allow to reduce data size, e.g., taking pictures.